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first time he was in office, he issued gag orders at the pentagon where nobody could even talk about the implications of those cuts. and his latest this week, he issued again memorandums that tell people they cannot talk about the reality of the cuts that are there. lori: we do have some quantitative data from the department of treasury, congressman, on the rate of defense spending, and we do know that it has risen of the last decade by 54%. that is inflation adjusted, obviously we have had it worse in iraq in afghanistan. obviously george w. bush was the president, but it also includes the increase in defense spending and the president obama. there is a case to be made, there is a lot of fat and the department of defense. cuts need to be made. it is i time. >> laurie, there is no question about that. there is that the department of defense and we're working on that in the to continue to work on that. sequestration is not going to get the fat. it is getting a programs that we desperately need doing in an arbitrary way. let me just address that 54 percent figure that you talked about.
in the senate. defense secretary telling pentagon employees that the united states cannot dictate to the world. should engage and lead with allies. joining us is andrew mccarthy, a former federal prosecutor who convicted the blind sheik and is the author of spring fever, the grand war how islam and the left sabotage america. great to see you. >> good to see you. lou: chuck opposed. republicans beating him up and for what? voted for him. >> is very hard to understand what that was all about. you know, they had an opportunity to blacken. i must say, if you're going to have a confirmation hearing in the result of the confirmation hearing ideology aside is that the guy seems like he is simply not up to the job, a reason why the framers said that he would disqualify someone and, in fact, gave the advice and consent responsibility to the senate. lou: i was talking with senator bill i have immense respect for. in termm of leading the republican party right now, the confusion in both the house and this senate coming up with a five page draft to turn over constitutional powers of the purse to
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